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razorboy25.okayyourturn	The new warjacks have arrived...		Lead	[-]
Posts: 334 10/21/09 16:20	Tags : None ... on the PP website. Quick overview: Cyclone - new Cygnar heavy warjack with twin chain guns. Comes in a kit that can be used to make a Cyclone, Defender or Ironclad. Looks-wise it's my favourite of the new jacks. Templar - new PoM heavy warjack, with shield and flail. Comes in a kit that can be used to make Vanquisher, Templar, or Crusader. Most boring of the new designs IMO. Decimator - new Khador heavy warjack with a buzzsaw (sustained attack maybe?) and a revolver-style gun that sounds like it might have a knock-down effect. I like the design personally, not as much as a Cyclone though. The kit can be used to make a Decimator, Destroyer, Juggernaut, or Marauder. Corruptor - new Cryx heavy warjack that sounds like it has toxic attacks (acid damage?) and denies souls to the enemy. Not a bad design overall IMO. The kit can be used to build a Corruptor, Reaper, or Slayer. I dig the idea of kits that can be used to create different jacks, and have bits left over. I wonder about the cost though. Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Rogue Trader Xenocide. Its continuing mission: to exploit strange new worlds, to seek out xeno life and eradicate it, to boldly conquer where no one has gone before.
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MuRm.ancientthreat		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 107 10/21/09 16:58	Hay, the Khador set has four 'jacks. :( Also, that Cryx set isn't too impressive, unless you really want a Corruptor. Overall these looks nice though, it's good to finally have the official announcement. Judging by the Retribution set, this will likely be around $30 each, which is fine with me. Looks to me like the Decimator has an updated design, kind of like the Extreme Juggernaut. Looks good, and the old Khador 'jacks were getting kind of stumpy anyway. I like the retcon on Protectorate 'jack design: "I swear, the Templar was around the whole time". I also hate the Crusader chassis, but this looks a little better. Basic Slayer chassis is still as gimpy as ever, and the funky new guns don't help. The Cyclone looks like a bad mother fucker, but I'm going to laugh if those guns are Pow 10. And I'll drink Cygnaran tears if it doesn't actually have two open fists. EDIT: Oh damn, someone put up a comparison between the new models and the old. http://www.privateerpress...p?showtopic=189890&st=50 I didn't realize how much better the new ones were. Makes me even happier I didn't pick up any of the crappy old heavies. Last Edited By: MuRm 10/21/09 17:43. Edited 1 time.
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razorboy25.okayyourturn		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 334 10/21/09 18:04	I like my stumpy Khadoran warjacks! I mean, the new Extreme Juggernaut is f'ing metal, but I'll be sad if all new Khadoran warjacks from now on will be less stumpy. I'll say this though, the one Khadoran warjack that is in desperate need of being less stumpy is Behemoth! Holy crap are his legs ever unproportional to his body, he should tower on the battlefield, not hunker down like a dwarf! Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Rogue Trader Xenocide. Its continuing mission: to exploit strange new worlds, to seek out xeno life and eradicate it, to boldly conquer where no one has gone before.
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Stefan		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/21/09 18:57	The Corruptor looks like a Slayer who's addicted to crack-cocaine, and not necessarily in a good way. I can only imagine how yummy the armour on the Templar is going to be (Centurion-grade?). I second your comment, John, about drinking Cygnaran tears if the Cyclone doesn't actually have two open fists. If it does, I know that they'll be drinking mine. :( I like the Khadoran jack's gun, if nothing else. The buzz-saw is a little shrug-worthy, but the gun and jack resculpt are kind of worth it. Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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Tevesh		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 155 10/21/09 21:10	What's more badass than a Heavy Weapon's Guy with Sasha? Two Heavy Weapon's Guys with Sasha. What's more badass than that? One Heavy Weapon's Guy with two Sasha's. The first thing I thought of when I heard of changing arms; "must learn something about those magnets." Also, I noticed from the comparison thread that these jacks do look bigger, and they're much more detailed. Perhaps they're plastic? Agreed with thinking that the PoM's jack is kind of gimpy. There's nothing new there, unless the stats are so WTF you can ignore the lacklusture design. As much as the Decimator is trampling on the Destroyer's schtick, I don't care because this jack's melee and ranged options look so much more badass. Shrug worthy saw? We might get Sustained Attack, fuck yeah! Silly Cryx jack is silly; crack addeled indeed. As for the Cyclone, it does say that they don't lose their effectiveness in melee. The only thing more baddass than a Heavy Jack with two Open Fists is a Heavy Jack with Gunfighter. I don't think that it is as good as Open Fists, but it's definitely cooler. Oh yeah, Arseni. The Behemoth completely fell off its legs during transport, but this is good because I'm going to repose him into a tackling positon from football, which is when Jeremy made an awesome suggestion to green stuff a football into a hand. Edit: Speaking of Football, did ya'll notice the Grind Boardgame PP has set up? Looks like you aren't going to use your Warmahordes figs or casters, it's going to be just a man-o a man-o. Edit2: Press Ganger/Store Owner noticed that plastic resculpts are coming out in January of pIrusk and pButcher, along with a new jack (hopefully the Decimator). Does anyone see any resculpts mentioned on their boards? Last Edited By: Tevesh 10/21/09 21:18. Edited 2 times.
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MuRm.ancientthreat		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 107 10/21/09 21:36	By the time they're done, every Prime and Escalation caster will have two sculpts. I'm not terribly excited by this, but there are a couple bad sculpts in that list. The Templar may be uninspired, but that's ok, I'm looking for a workhorse 'jack. As long as we don't get screwed, we're looking at Arm 21, chain weapon, and possibly reach. Coming in at 7 points, that would fill a void. Alternately, it could have several rules, like Thresher or Repulsor Shield, and be a heavyweight at 9 points. Either is fine, as long as we don't get another 8 pointer. The other ones might seem cool, but fancy rules are no good if it comes with a high points cost.
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Stefan		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/21/09 21:52	Must be nice. In the Corruptor, I foresee a "heavy" warjack with a shitty damage grid, shitty def and armour, a "novel" melee attack that really doesn't cut the mustard (P+S 15 or 16 at best), and a "novel" ranged attack that isn't any better than the crap the Leviathan has. Plus, it's ugly like a mother-f'er. I don't see it fitting any gaps (the only gap that the Cryx forums really want to fill at the moment is a tougher, spider-melee jack), and I don't see it out-performing the Harrower or Deathjack. We'll see when it comes out, but I'm not crossing my fingers. The Templar is indeed uninspired-looking, but at least there's some hope for it kicking some serious ass (at 7 points) :) I don't know...Gunfight + chain guns is stupid. Then again, Cygnar is stupid, so... Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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MuRm.ancientthreat		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 107 10/21/09 22:16	I'm really not expecting much out of the Corruptor. If I played Cryx, I probably wouldn't even pick up the box set, although I would in a heartbeat for the other factions. Also, as awesome as it looks, unless it bucks the trend, the Cyclone won't be great either. Gunfighter would be AWESOME, and I really don't see how it's supposed to fight in melee anyway. We really can't guess at what the Decimator's stats will be, so who knows there. Even if they both suck, you can still make a Defender or Destroyer. I'm crossing my fingers for 7 points Templar. 8 points would be a cruel joke, and at that point I might as well just make numerous 8 point slots in lists and fill in whatever 'jacks and units I feel like that day, since they all cost the same. The cheapest source of Arm 21 right now is at 9, so even if it's weak offensively, I could just ram it into their lines (at Spd 4 >.> ), since only another heavy could take it down.
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razorboy25.okayyourturn		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 334 10/21/09 23:27	Stefan, quit your whining. I think you're in the minority when it comes to Corruptor's scult. I don't think it's awesome, but I don't think it's terrible either. It's not as good as Slayer but a great deal better than most of your warjacks. And yeah, wait 'till chickens come home to roost, maybe you'll finally get a good ranged heavy warjack, or maybe it'll have sustained attack or something, and it's bound to have a corrosion attack. You're too damn negative. :P I'm really hoping (hypothetically) that the new warjack kits are going to be plastic. More plastic bits would be so badass. Then again, I won't be playing at least until summer, if then. /shrug Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Rogue Trader Xenocide. Its continuing mission: to exploit strange new worlds, to seek out xeno life and eradicate it, to boldly conquer where no one has gone before.
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Keidrych		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 135 10/21/09 23:28	Those new sculpts look great. I look forward to seeing how the other peices in the kits look.
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Stefan		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/23/09 11:17	Yeah, but I'm generally Mr. Negativity, so that's more or less my thing. PP's track record on "new things Cryxian" hasn't been so stellar, so I'm following the trend. I will, obviously, wait to see what the thing does, but my predictions are no less negative. If it's good, then I shall be pleasantly surprised! As for the plastic kits, the Retribution kits are predominantly (if not all) plastic, so I don't see why the resculpts of our current jack chassis' wouldn't be set into new plastic molds. Just a thought. :) Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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razorboy25.okayyourturn		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 334 10/23/09 11:35	Well I for one welcome our new Cryxian Corruptor Overlords! Spawn more overlords! Charles commented on how the new Khadoran jack's arms look very thin and like they're about to break off at any moment, but if the kit is going to be full plastic, then I think it's going to be ok. Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Rogue Trader Xenocide. Its continuing mission: to exploit strange new worlds, to seek out xeno life and eradicate it, to boldly conquer where no one has gone before.
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Keidrych		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 135 10/28/09 15:20	The main page now has some Protectorate/Cryx plastic variants, along with a new and sexy Rhulic heavy. It looks as if it's based on the lights, but enlarged.
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Stefan		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/28/09 15:25	New Rhulic jack, eh? Going to check... OMG!!!11111 It is so much cooler/steampunky than any of the other new jacks. If I already didn't have a hankering for Rhulfolk, I certainly would develop one now! Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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razorboy25.okayyourturn		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 334 10/28/09 16:50	Eh, I'm just not feeling it. It is more steampunk-y, that's true, but the model's kinda boring. Still, more rhulic goodness is good, right? Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Rogue Trader Xenocide. Its continuing mission: to exploit strange new worlds, to seek out xeno life and eradicate it, to boldly conquer where no one has gone before.
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Stefan		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/28/09 17:10	It's certainly an "acquired taste." For some reason, I love the sheer stumpiness of it all. It certainly beats the "look at me, I'm a Xenosaga bad guy!" elven mecha. Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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MuRm.ancientthreat		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 107 10/28/09 17:13	About the Khador arms, somebody called it a Popeye look, what with the huge forearms. New Protectorate pictures just affirm how ugly the old models are. New Cryx pictures look pretty good, I guess the Corruptor is just that ugly. Basher looks pretty heavy duty, definitely cool. Problem for me is that it looks way different than anything else. Suffers from the Myrmidon problem, of looking out of place.
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Stefan		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/28/09 17:20	I don't think that the Basher is drastically different from the other Rhulic models, especially if you look at a) gunbunnies, and b) Durgen with his diving helmet. :) They're certainly not as bad as the Iosan jacks, especially when you consider that the Rhuls use squat, powerful jacks for mining. Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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Tevesh		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 155 10/28/09 21:35	I don't like it. It looks like it would just run around all stumpy like. But yeah, the new Protectorate Jacks are some sexy beasts. The Cryxian resculpts are funny because they got the names wrong; the Slayer's image is with the Reaper's text and vice versa. Also, they seem to be a rehash of text, I swear PP has some lazy webmaster or terrible blurb writers as the texts are as much cut + paste as humanly possible.
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MuRm.ancientthreat		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 107 10/29/09 22:29	Khador 'jacks are up now. I'm not sure how I feel about the new look, but I am loving the size increase. Heavy 'jacks should be huge, and the Prime ones have been getting dwarfed. I'm not a huge fan of the tentative pricing: $35. It's not unreasonable, but I wish it was 5 bucks less like the Myrmidon set. The dollars add up quickly. Just one 'jack set and the Mk II cards=$55. Then there's the possible resculpts (of stuff I don't already own), as well as stuff that's now awesome in Mk II. I want to get these things, but I also don't want to spend all that money. Also, picking up a second faction may not have been the wisest choice.
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Stefan		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 492 10/29/09 22:35	You can always run with the stuff you bought for the second faction (you have at least 350 worth, so you can play it now and then), and hop back to the Protectorate whenever you feel like fielding a larger force. I agree with you, though...the resculpts are nice (though the Slayer box doesn't interest me, at least not until I see what the butt-ugly Corruptor can do), but that's a lot of money to be shelling out. I definitely want to pick up the cards, but I'm probably going to hold off models for quite some time. Plus, Vassal! Reading: Thomas Middleton, "A Chaste Maid in Cheapside"; Dennis Lee, "Un".
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